Hello everyone,i hаνе a qυеѕtіοn аbουt mу scope/rifle setup. I’m relatively nеw tο rifles аnd shooting аnd i bουght a remington 700 bdl 30-06 a few weeks ago. I took іt up thе range twice ѕіnсе. i bουght іt used wіth a scope mounted οn itg. thе scope іѕ a pentax 3x-9x mc. I hаνе hаd іt bore sighted реrfесtlу аnd everything works реrfесtlу οn thе gun аѕ well, except fοr thе scope. I gο tο a 100yard range whеrе i wеnt tο υѕе іt thе first 2 times аnd out οf 54 rounds i hit thе target 3 times аll οf thе shots low οn thе target. Bυt whеn i gshot mу friends 30-06 i hit close tο center first shot. I thіnk thеrе іѕ something wrοng wіth thе scope cause i bουght іt used. I shot wіth аn ar15 thеrе аѕ well wіth thе iron sights аnd grouped mу shots rаthеr well. Iѕ thеrе аnу way thаt i сουld hаνе a shitty scope? οr сουld іt bе ѕο outta wack thаt thе cross hairs arnt whеrе thе round іѕ going? i hаνе nο іdеа bесаυѕе i shot fine wіth οthеr guns аt thе 100 yard. аnу іdеаѕ οr suggestions wουld bе greatly appriciated.
take it to a gun store and ask if they will dial the scope in for you thats what i did and it shoots on target
try to see if everything is tight on the scope, if so try a bigger target, and resting the gun on something with a rag underneath it so you don’t scratch up the stock, and then try sighting it in from there remember if the bullet hits high, then you dial the crosshairs down, hope this helps
Did you try to adjust the scope at all or did you just burn up $50. hoping something would fix itself? What, if anything, did you try to do to rectify the problem? That would be helpful to know.
This may be the time to get some professional help. That’s what you do when you get into stuff you know nothing about.
Bore sights works nice for getting you on paper, you need to adjust it yourself once you put lead on paper. Sounds like you need to adjust your scope up if it is hitting low.
If you are new to rifles you may have to get use to squeezing the trigger and being very deliberate with your breathing and timing. Also if the weather conditions are bad it can have an adverse effect on your performance very easily. Before you throw the scope away you should consider checking the gun out. First of all if the previous owner shot cheap ammunition through the gun there may be a build up of lead, copper or just dirt in the rifling of the gun. If the gun has any debris in the bore it can throw you off wildly and you should clean the gun with the proper bore brass brush once in a while to remove any build up. Be sure to run a cleaning wad through the gun after the brush to get any contamination out and oil the bore to keep it from rusting. Make sure the scope is tight and secure on the mounts and the lenses are clean too. And the next time you are at the range don’t be afraid to shoot at a fifty yard target for a while to get use to the trigger pull and know that you are holding a tight pattern. Practice makes perfect and like I said in the beginning, learn to be aware of your breathing. It can have a huge effect on the accuracy of your shot. When you get into long range shooting of I would say 400 yards or more it can be the difference of inches just knowing how your breathing effects your shot. When you get to really long shots your heart beat can become a factor believe it or not. But it is all about control.
Another thing to check is the bore size itself. To do this just take one of your bullets and stick it in the end of the barrel pointing back toward the chamber. The bullet should not fit in the barrel all the way to the brass. If it does the rifling will not dig into the bullet and will not give it the correct spin as it is leaving the muzzle. If the bullet fits all the way to the brass or if the hole is not perfectly round the gun is shot out and no good for long range shots. Good luck and remember ” When there is an emergency the police are minutes away when seconds count. Protect yourself”
I hope I have been helpful.
Bore sighting just gets the shot in the general vicinity. You now need to zero it in. There are many good articles available, I am not going to type that much. Read a few articles until you understand it well
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Bore-sighting a rifle, whether you do it with a laser or with a collimator, just gets the barrel and the scope looking in roughly the same direction, that’s all. Anyone who tells you different is lying.
There are a LOT of variables when sighting-in a rifle and they include every single part of the rifle, the scope, the mounts, the rings, how everything fits in relation to everything else, how tight things are, fit of the wood to the metal. . . . I could go on for half an hour and my fingers would hurt and you would be lost. So let’s take it step by step.
Get a good set of HOLLOW-GROUND screwdrivers. They cost money but they don’t slip. Now take off the scope and the rings as an assembly. Got it?
You’re ready to start. Take a dollar bill and run it between the forward part of the stock and the barrel. You should be able to bring it back to a point a couple of inches ahead of the receiver. That tells you if your barrel is floating properly. If the dollar moves only roughly or catches, you have too little clearance between stock and metal, so you take out the 2 big screws holding everything together and you sand out the inside of the fore-stock in long, straight, smooth motions until the dollar will move properly. Put it back together.
Do up the action screws TIGHT and lock them in place. Use blue Loc-tite or a drop of fingernail polish. TIGHT. Loose action screws are the cause of 75% of the cruddy-shooting rifles out there. Now tighten the screws holding on the BASES for your scope. TIGHT. . . and with Loc-tite or fingernail polish on the threads. Now you assemble the scope to the rifle, do up the screws TIGHT and make sure the tiny screws holding the scope rings together also are TIGHT. You’re ready to go to the range.
For your range trip, you take along a friend, three or four small sandbags, a BIG sheet of white cardboard, a roll of black electrician’s tape, a nickel, a pocket-knife and ONE box of shells loaded with 150-grain slugs. We’re gonna set you up the old British Army way, the way they set up the sniping rifles. . . with 2 shots only. They couldn’t afford to waste ammo, so they didn’t. You can’t afford to waste it, either. So you don’t.
When you get to the range you set up your target, which is the big sheet of white cardboard. You use the electricians’ tape to make a 4-inch-by-4-inch black square in the MIDDLE of the sheet of cardboard and then set it up as a target. At 50 yards only. Don’t try to ‘hero’ it; that’s for a few minutes from now. For now, 50 yards only.
At the bench, set up your sandbags and bring out your rifle. Remove the bolt from the rifle and the caps from the scope adjustments. Bore-sight the rifle onto that aiming-square, centering the square in the bore. Check and see that the scope is more-or-less looking the same direction. If you can get them exactly the same, more power to ye. Now you put the bolt into the rifle, get some earplugs in, load a round.
You do NOT aim at the middle of the aiming-square: that’s not precise enough for what we are doing. You put the cross-hairs of the scope down along the LEFT SIDE of the aiming-square and along its BOTTOM. you now have the aiming-square ‘framed’ by two of your cross-hairs and that IS accurate enough. Very carefully, fire that single shell.
Now you unload the rifle and take a walk down the range. Look at your target and find your hole. Put a tiny square of black tape on top of your bullet-hole. Now you walk back to your rifle.
Now you take aim with the rifle, carefully framing the aiming-square just the way you did when you fired your shot, but you do NOT load the rifle. Once you are all set-up that way, get your range buddy to start moving the cross-hairs of your scope with the nickel. You direct him, while you are holding the rifle absolutely solid and without moving it at all. HE moves the cross-hairs of the scope, ‘walking’ the bullet-hole until the crosshairs are RIGHT ON TOP of the bullet-hole that you already have. NOW the rifle and the glass are looking at the same place. Rap the scope tube a couple of times with the handle of the screwdriver to ’shock’ the scope adjustments into a relaxed state.
NOW you load and fire your second shot, aiming at your first bullet-hole. The two shots should touch or be VERY close.
NOW you raise the scope 4 clicks, rap it a couple of times with the handle of a screwdriver to seat it and you are dialed right in for up to about 150 yards.
You have the rest of the shells for practising.
Go to it and have fun!
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I just read the answer that GEORGE on here gave and feel that is is complete and truthful. Follow his advice and also give him credit for best answer to this question.
It’s possible your scope is defective, but bore sighting is a long way from sighting in the scope. Bullets don’t follow line of sight, so you’ll have to adjust the scope to the load you’re shooting, and if you switch loads, you’ll have to sight in again. That’s why the scope has those knobs to adjust for windage and elevation.
You neglected to tell us if you took the scopes windage or elevation covers off and turned the dials to adjust where the bullets you send downrange are impacting at.
One turret is the elevation adjustment dial which moves bullet impact up or down. Sounds like this is the one you have to turn to move bullet impact to where you want it to go.
The other is the windage dial which moves bullet impact left or right.
Since you have shot a lot of rounds and are not happy now. Do this.
Move target to 25 yards and find out if your rifle and scope are looking in the same direction. This close you have to turn the dial lots to make bullet land where you want it to go.
When Rifle shooting better, move target out to 50 yards and continue adjustments in scope. Now, farther out, you turn scope adjustments less to make where you want bullet to land.
When rifle shooting pretty close to center bullseye, move target out to 100 yard and continue fine tuning scope adjustments so you hit center each shot.
To end your possible confusion, some scopes are marked in some technical internal glass element movement voodoo. And do not turn to where the bullet lands. If your scope is such an animal, ignore directions, arrows, etc. Turn the dial in the direction that works for you and be sure to write that and each adjustment you make so you do not get confused.